Interview: Nepal is a treasure-trove for the study of Śaivism
To coincide with the Mahaśivarātrī, a great Hindu festival, ApEx brings to you a noted European scholar on Sanskrit and Śaivism—the study and practice related to Śiva. Florinda De Simini is an associate professor in Ancient and Medieval History of India at the University of Naples “L’Orientale”. A PhD in Indic and Tibetan Studies from the University of Turin, she is busy exploring Śaivism in India and Nepal these days through her Śivadharma Project, making a noble use of the National Archives of Kathmandu, and contributing to the study of the religious-social landscape of the Kathmandu Valley, tracing it right up to medieval times. Excerpts:
What exactly does the Śivadharma Project do?
At the Śivadharma Project, our research focuses on lay Śaivism as seen from the perspective of the texts belonging to the Śivadharma tradition, which we trace in their attestations through the textual, epigraphic and visual sources of South Asia. Financed by the European Research Council, the project is based at the University of Naples “L’Orientale” in Italy as the host institution. University of Bologna and the École française d'Extrême-Orient in Pondicherry are our partners. Scholars from Italy, Nepal, India, the United Kingdom, Hungary, the Netherlands, and Israel, hired at these three institutions, contribute to the project with their expertise in different fields of Indology.
Florinda with Śivadharma Project team
Your project mainly focuses on pre-modern sources. How could it be relevant for the modern age?
In the first place, the team of scholars working for the Śivadharma Project is contributing to publishing and studying new sources, and thus writing new pages of the religious and political history of South Asia. Therefore, one of the reasons why the project can be considered relevant to the modern world is that we are enhancing our knowledge of the past; specifically, also of aspects of the past that still reverberate in the present. As a matter of fact, traces of the Śivadharma can be seen in the living Śaiva traditions of India and Nepal: I think, just to mention a few examples, of the Lingayat in Karnataka, or the Śaiva Siddhanta in Tamil Nadu.
In Nepal, the famous Yogi Naraharinath, working from Pashupatinath, about 20 years ago transcribed and commented upon the Śivadharma Sanskrit texts, producing the only complete edition of the works belonging to the Nepalese “Śivadharma Corpus” that is known so far.
Our study of primary sources, such as manuscripts, inscriptions or iconography, will furthermore contribute not only to the knowledge, but also to the preservation of this precious but fragile heritage, as we are carrying out the digitization and online storing of these materials. All the results of our project will be available online at no cost on our website, to the benefit of the academic and general readership.
What are your project's crucial findings so far?
In the first place, we are discovering that the influence and reception of our Sanskrit sources, composed as early as the 6th-7th century, was more pervasive than we originally thought. The Tamil-speaking South, with its production in Tamil and Sanskrit, has surpassed our expectations concerning the number and complexity of the new materials that have emerged on our specific research subject. Moreover, in several cultural areas, such as Nepal or North-Eastern India, our research is constantly showing that, at some levels, the boundaries between religious traditions were in fact quite blurred: Śaiva communities existed in a continuum with Buddhists and Vaiṣṇavas, and this has echoes both in their doctrinal and in their institutional lives.
How would the study of Śivadharma benefit the European academic sphere?
Primarily by employing scholars at European institutions, such as the University of Naples and the University of Bologna, and thus enhancing the possibilities of conducting research in the field of classical Indology and Tamil studies. At the same time, we are also attracting and supporting students and younger scholars, to whom we specifically address some of the seminars that we host during the academic year. The organization of conferences, workshops and other academic events, which has now temporarily come to a standstill due to the current sanitary emergency, are all opportunities to promote academic and intellectual exchange, which benefit not just the scholars involved, but also the wider communities of scholars and students hosted at our institutions. In Europe, our project cooperates with colleagues mainly based in the Netherlands, Germany, the United Kingdom, Hungary and France, striving to reinforce a long-lasting network of cooperation.
How could it possibly impact Nepal and its religious and cultural studies?
Nepal is one of the main regional areas on which the work of the Śivadharma Project is focusing. As a matter of fact, this country is a treasure-trove of materials, considering the abundance of early palm-leaf and paper manuscripts of the Śivadharma texts originating from the Valley. These texts have been of special interest in the Nepalese religious landscape for centuries, as they were copied for religious purposes and chanted during festivals. The work of the project in assessing the impact of the Śivadharma on local Śaivism will therefore shed light on a relevant aspect of the rich religious history of Nepal.
We would also like to establish agreements such as MOUs with Nepalese academic institutions, in order to promote the exchange of students and scholars between Europe and Nepal, and foster collaborations between the Śivadharma Project and the Nepalese scholarly community. Nepali scholars are already in our team.
Does it tell anything new about the religious practices of the Kathmandu Valley? Are they different from those in India?
One of the specificities of Nepal that we are encountering in our research is that here, and only here, the early Śaiva works we study have been transmitted by a great number of early and modern manuscripts as part of a fixed corpus of works. Now, when we started examining these additional works, which might have been composed in Nepal, or at least were extremely popular in its manuscript traditions, we noticed that in the majority of cases they are far from being solely Śaiva in a strict sense: they rather seem to point at a hybrid form of cult in which the Śaiva devotion was embedded with Dharmashastra, Vaishnavism, and, at times, Buddhism. We believe that this aspect, when further examined and put in conversation with other elements of Nepalese religious landscape, will be counted as one of the main specificities emerging from our research on the Nepalese corpora.
This allows us to draw a direct parallel with the current cultic practice of the Kathmandu valley. As we know for experience, the Paśupatinātha temple does not only host the worship of Śiva and Śaiva deities, but also that of Vaiṣṇava deities such as Viṣṇu and Kṛṣṇa, while once a year Śiva is worshipped in the form Buddha (more specifically in the five buddhas: pañca-buddha) at every buddha-purṇiṃā (full moon day on which Buddha was born) falling in the month of Vaiśākha (May). A comparable case is the worship of Viṣṇu in Budhānīlakaṇṭha temple, where the cult of Viṣṇu starts with the consecration (abhiṣeka) on the head of a Viṣṇu statue, which presupposes that Viṣṇu is a form of Śiva. The same statue is considered to represent Avalokiteśvara by Buddhists, and it is frequently visited by Buddhist devotees.
Thus, the Śivadharma “corpus” that we are studying attests to a similar level of religious tolerance as the one that we still see in practice in Kathmandu.
You have been working closely with the material from the National Archives, Kathmandu. What value do you ascribe to those materials as an expert in this field?
The manuscript materials of the National Archives are, simply put, invaluable. In terms of antiquity and abundance, these manuscripts have been crucial to understand the relevance of the Śivadharma texts and their impact on early societies. The Archives preserve the earliest specimens of this collection, and some of the most reliable sources that we in the Śivadharma Project are using for critically editing our Sanskrit texts. At the same time, these manuscripts are more than just tools for the reconstruction of texts: for the study of their material aspects, as well as of the information added by copyists about their production and use, can also provide important clues on medieval and modern history. This does not only apply to manuscripts of the Śivadharma Corpus, but to many specimens of the various works that are preserved at the National Archives.
These are truly unparalleled materials, such as an early manuscript of the Vaiṣṇavadharmaśāstra, the oldest surviving text belonging to the Mahābhārata. Moreover, among the Archives’ precious collection we encounter the only manuscript of the Niśvāsatattvasaṃhitā, the earliest surviving Śaiva Tantra; the earliest extant Vaiṣṇava Pāñcarātra source, i.e. the Jayākhyasaṃhitā; the oldest surviving Jaina Tantra, the Praśnavyākaraṇa, and so on. Such materials provide an enormous contribution to the study of the early history of Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism — which makes The National Archives of Kathmandu an irreplaceable resource in the field of Indology.
Why did you choose to study Sanskrit instead of venturing into other profitable areas?
Well, if you consider the grants that I received, and not my personal income, studying Sanskrit has proven to be a very profitable choice in the end! All jokes aside, I have always been attracted to the humanities and the arts, and wanted to dedicate my life to studying them well before my encounter with Sanskrit. When I started engaging with this field of study, I saw that it could give enormous possibilities for original research and new discoveries. But my choice was not solely dictated by my personal inclination: I do believe that studying and teaching these subjects has a long-lasting impact on society, even though the results can only be assessed over a long period of time.
You have spent so many years studying Śaivism. What attracted you? Why Śiva?
One of the reasons why I chose Śaivism is that it is one of the main religious, cultural and political agents in the period that I was mainly interested in studying, which spans from the post-Gupta era to the 13th century. The spread of Śaivism had a profound influence on the literary, philosophical and artistic production of the era, while also impacting the political and institutional spheres. In brief, the history of Śaivism makes for a multifaceted topic that can arise the interests of many. Another reason was the encounter with the work of several other scholars who were already active in this field. I was thus also attracted by the idea of becoming part of a lively academic community, and contributing with my work to its intellectual endeavors.
Quick questions with Archana Panthi
Do you love working from home or would you rather be in office?
As my work requires being on set always, working from home isn’t an option. Would never be either. I’d want to spend my days and nights at my workplace.
The zombie apocalypse is coming, who are three people you want on your team?
My mother. One among my four mentors. My lover.
If you could be on a reality TV show, which one would you choose?
It would’ve been Big Boss if it came to Nepal. Cause I LOVE DRAMA. Haha.
One theatrical production that you’d love to play lead in?
A Doll’s House. I’ve loved it since I read it for the first time in high school.
The most inspiring person for you in the Nepali entertainment industry?
Najir Hussain inspires me in multiple ways.
If you could eliminate one thing from your daily routine, what would it be?
Does getting out of bed in the morning count? Haha. Actually, removing make-up before bed. Even though it’s only sunscreen and powder mostly, I’m just too lazy. I wish somebody else did that for me.
Big Party or small gathering?
Small gathering over everything else. Always!
What fictional family would you be a member of?
The Targaryens from Game of Thrones. I’d want to be an aunt to the Dragons.
Have you ever been told you look like someone famous? Who was it?
Mithila Palkar. I don’t think that’s very true though.
If you could instantly become an expert in something, what would it be?
Acting.
Changing mindsets on federalism the most difficult challenge for Nepal: An interview with Valerie Julliand
Valerie Julliand was appointed UN Resident Coordinator and UNDP’s Resident Representative to Nepal in 2016. As she left the country after finishing her term at the end of September for Indonesia, where she will serve as the new UN Resident Coordinator, Julliand recounted her experience in Nepal in this email exchange with APEX’s Biswas Baral. Here she describes her experience of dealing with the aftermath of 2015 earthquake, women’s empowerment, Nepal’s federal challenges, the country’s development aspirations, and her overall experience living and working here.
Helping the country deal with the devastating impact of the 2015 earthquakes was one of your first major challenges in Nepal. Can you share some of your reflections from that time? What were the lessons?
I came to Nepal at a time when the country, and city that was to become my home, were recovering from the devastation of the earthquake. Months had passed, but the recovery efforts were still very much ongoing and of course reconstruction to some extent continues to this day. In the immediate aftermath of the earthquake, the UN system began to work with the government to ensure a quick and effective response. The priority of course was to provide life-saving humanitarian assistance to those most effected and to start rebuilding homes and communities.
Nepal chose an owner-driven reconstruction approach, allowing for people to build their homes back with the government’s funding support. As a result of which some 500,000 houses have been rebuilt, an amazing achievement really. Given the enormous scale of the crisis, the choice of using a uniform approach to reconstruction is understandable, but it is important to also reflect on its limitations. The inequality and diversity among those impacted by the earthquakes meant that there was also a need for a more differentiated and targeted approach. This need was highlighted by the UN and humanitarian community at large, and it was our role to support the government in ensuring the necessary readjustments to reach those furthest behind.
It is so important for us to remember that sometimes in our efforts to reach the largest number of people, the most vulnerable and marginalized might struggle to access the relief and assistance they need. A female-headed household or person with a disability is likely to have specific needs for support. I am so glad that as part of the earthquake response efforts, we were able to establish the Community Feedback Project with the support of the British Embassy (previously DfID), because this allowed the humanitarian community, including the government to hear from affected communities. It essentially brought their voices to the decision-making table and I think this made our response stronger and more adapted to the needs of those we aimed to serve. This has continued in humanitarian response efforts since then, including the 2017 floods and the Covid-19 response.
The biggest lesson of course is that so much of the life saving work happens prior to a disaster and that is why it is so important that the government has put in place new legislation and policy on disaster risk reduction and management. What is essential now, is to ensure that this is implemented, and legislation enforced. I see a great opportunity provided by federalism in strengthening the disaster risk reduction and management efforts, as this is an effort that requires all three tiers of government from the federal to the local.
You have been a strong advocate of women’s representation in decision-making bodies. The UN played a vital role in ensuring greater representation of women in the last local elections. Why was this important?
Women make up half of the population of the world and of course, half of the population of Nepal. The importance of women being in elected office or present at the decision-making table really should need no justification. Nonetheless, across the globe women’s leadership and political participation is restricted and we are underrepresented in elected office, the civil service, and private sector. As the UN, it remains one of our key priorities to change this, because we cannot claim to have democratic and inclusive societies until women are allowed to participate fully and equally in decision making across private and public life.
Nepal has made enormous progress in women’s representation in political office, with 14,000 women (including 6,500 Dalit women) holding 41 percent of all locally elected positions. This really is the result of the unrelenting work of the Nepali women’s movement. Though the numbers changed overnight, the gender discriminatory norms and stereotypes that have been barriers to women’s equal participation unfortunately have not. Thus, we must work together to build an enabling environment for these women to be able to deliver on their mandates. They must be allowed to do their work safely, their voices respected and heard, and their skills and leadership recognized.
As the UN, it is not only important to provide the necessary support to increase the skills and capacities of elected representatives, irrespective of gender, but to support in building an enabling environment that allows women leaders to succeed, and for this we must together transform discriminatory norms. It is only with this, that we can truly build a gender equal and inclusive democracy.
Nepal has just started on its federal journey and it’s been a tough start. What do you see as the major challenges for Nepal’s federal project? How do we overcome them?
I must say that being witness to the federalization process in Nepal and seeing the engagement and commitment of the provincial and local governments has been a great privilege. I have been particularly encouraged to see the dedication to localize the Sustainable Development Goals to inform development planning across the country. Of course, the transition to federalism requires years to unfold and many challenges remain, however this process is essential for the realization of the commitments to equality and inclusion of the government of Nepal.
Federalism is not only a process of changing government structures, laws and policies, but of changing mindsets and perhaps that is the most difficult challenge ahead. This requires a change in the thinking of each and every person living in this country and a recognition of the incredible opportunities that bringing political decision making and governance structure closer to the people provides. I look forward to following how the foundations of a federal Nepal become ever stronger in the years to come.
I am happy to have seen that Nepal’s development aspirations and vision really focus on inclusion and building a more equal and just society. With a constitution such as Nepal’s, the foundations for this are strong. Of course, multiple challenges remain and areas which will need focus from the government, civil society, and the private sector, and of course the international development community. First, there is a need to start consciously shifting discriminatory norms and practices that continue to prevail in Nepal and which marginalize women and girls and other historically excluded groups. Gender and social inclusion responsive planning and policy making is needed irrespective of sector. Only by dismantling historical structures of discrimination can Nepal truly build a sustainable future for all. This is not easy of course, but I believe Nepal is on the right path that it must see through to the end.
A key challenge which remains, and one which intricately relates to gender and social inclusion, is that of access to justice. A functioning justice system is key not only to protect and guarantee the human rights of all citizens, delivering justice to both victims and accused, but essential for accelerating progress across the 17 SDGs and realizing the Agenda 2030. Justice is also the most efficient way to ensure changes in—and counteract—the norms and practices detrimental to many groups in Nepal, pending the change of mentality and mindsets.
As I have mentioned earlier, for Nepal to truly build the foundations for a sustainable future, it must learn the lessons of its past and ensure that disaster risk reduction and management is given the attention and emphasis it needs. If progress made is regularly lost due to disaster and environmental degradation, not only are precious resources wasted, but the lives of the very people the country wants to protect are placed in danger.
Besides earthquake, Nepal is also prone to natural disasters like floods and landslides and the new effects of climate change. How do we mitigate these risks and what role has the UN played in this?
The vulnerability to climate change and natural disasters, together with continued environmental degradation, poses a real threat to Nepal and its people, and endangers the gains made towards achieving the sustainable development goals. The UN has a normative role and technical expertise in policy development and capacity building in the areas of climate and disaster risk reduction, effective emergency response, sound environmental management, and sustainable recovery. It is one of the core areas of our work in our collaboration with the government. The UN in Nepal has a unique partnership with a consortium of Universities led by Durham University, on a project to examine how to use local knowledge and new interdisciplinary science to inform better decision making and reduce the impacts of multi-hazards in Nepal. This partnership has been seen as a model in the region.
The UN works on strengthening the capacity of national and sub-national levels as well as local communities to mitigate risks of, prepare for, respond to and recover and rebuild from the effect of disasters and climate change. It is important to remember, that disasters impact people differently and often women and those from marginalized groups are disproportionately impacted in crisis. Pre-existing and intersecting inequalities mean that women and girls, persons with disabilities or a Dalit person will experience adverse consequences and have different resources, capacities and coping strategies than others.
As the UN, it is our responsibility to highlight these needs before and after the crisis and work with the government to address them. Most importantly, women and those from marginalized groups must be provided an opportunity to participate fully in the planning and implementation of disaster risk reduction and management and humanitarian response. This makes for a stronger and more effective approach.
As I mentioned earlier, Nepal has put in place a strong legislative and policy framework on disaster risk reduction and management. What is important now is to ensure the implementation of that legislation—so that roads and houses are not built in landslide prone areas and are seismic resistant, and environmental degradation is curtailed.
What has been the UN’s role in helping Nepal deal with the ongoing Covid-19 crisis? What are our major challenges? How do we better equip ourselves to deal with such pandemics in the future?
As is the case globally, the UN’s Covid-19 health response is led by WHO, building on its long-standing partnership with the Ministry of Health and Population. In the context of the pandemic WHO has provided technical support across a wide range of areas including strengthening data generation and management; developing necessary guidelines and protocols; strengthening laboratory capacities; and ensuring regular, reliable and accessible communication to the general public. Across the world, health systems have been placed under enormous pressure and this is no different for Nepal. Here the government has been able to take a number of steps to strengthen its health care system to cope with the pandemic, capacities which we hope will remain as the country recovers.
As we know, the Covid-19 crisis goes beyond a health crisis and as such the overall UN response addresses water and sanitation needs, education, nutrition and protection to name a few. Another central focus for the UN is of course in supporting the government to address the socio-economic impacts of the crisis and to ensure a timely and inclusive recovery that focuses on the needs of those most affected. We must never forget the individual lives impacted—the women now isolated at home with their abusers, the meals skipped by families as they cope with lost livelihoods, or the migrants who have not only lost their jobs but are stigmatized and discriminated upon their return home.
As the UN, we have just completed a socio-economic framework to guide our work in the coming 18 months to support the country in its long-term recovery of the crisis. It is important to remain vigilant, ensuring that progress made towards the Sustainable Development Goals is not lost in the aftermath of the pandemic and rather that we use this as an opportunity to address the systemic weaknesses and long-standing inequalities in society.
In terms of your last question on equipping ourselves, I really think it is time for us to critically reflect individually and collectively how we treat the people and our planet. I hope that this pushes us towards taking effective action for a more sustainable and inclusive future, but I do fear that we are so stuck in our ways that real change will be hard to come by. What is needed is a change in mindsets, an openness to address the wrongs of the past, and commit to a carbon neutral and environmentally sustainable future.
What overall impression of Nepal and Nepalis do you take back? Can you tell us about some of your more memorable moments here?
My most treasured memories are of the encounters and conversations I have had with people across this country, hearing of their experiences and I am grateful to each of them for their trust. The people of Nepal are hospitable, friendly and kind; it is this that I will take with me as I leave my home of four years. I have come to love this city and country, its incredible landscapes, diversity of culture and people.
Quick questions with Sonam Pakhrin
One piece of equipment that has long been on your wish-list?
As of now, it would be an HD optic macro lens for my phone.
If you could go anywhere in the world where would it be and why?
Actually I was planning to go on a road trip to Ladakh with my wife before the pandemic hit. When everything is over, that’s where we will be going to recharge ourselves.
What is your dream job?
‘Lights, camera, action’ has always been my dream job and I am fortunate I get to do what I love.
Are you a morning or a night person?
Definitely a night person. Most of my work-related ideas and concepts are drafted at midnight.
Three favorite artists to work with for music videos?
Every professional artist but to take names, it would be—Reema Biswokarma, Alisha Rai and, Nirajan Pradhan.
If you ever make a movie, what genre would it be?
Romance.
Say you’re filthy-rich already and don’t have to work, what would you do with your time?
I don’t think I can stay without working.
If you could choose two famous Nepali folks to have dinner with, who would they be?
With utmost respect, Kulman Ghising and Mahabir Pun. They are an inspiration for every Nepali citizen.
Would you rather give up your smartphone or your computer?
I can never imagine going to the bathroom without my phone. So I will give up my computer.
If you could instantly become an expert in something, what would it be at?
I’d wish to be a great dancer and rapper.